The new step of France
Raffi's yesterday's post gave the prime news yesterday, and because of connexions problem i became a partially anonymous commentor yesterday (amot indzi!) ... Votchinch !
Just wanted to add :
Shafak and Dink have the opinion of the inside-Turkey ones that try to change things in another way : they're oppressed for their sayings but still try to deliver the message. It's very noble, and understandable.
But here in France, i don't think we'd had to take such a law if Turks didn't came mintchev hos for threatening french-armenians that only want to commemorate their deaths, and were followed by french authorities in this. The denying caused "troubles to public order", and it's nice that it won't be so easily tolerated.
Sad law for freedom of speech indeed, but remember that the same already exists in France since more than 20 years about Shoah's denying. Journalists here, even if supposed to be neutral, are rather agree with the fact that this law was useful despite of the freedom's hurt : it avoided us to see really embarrassing theories of some crazy minded people (embarassing for the one who listen).
With such a law for Armenian genocide we can hope to see the same disgusted feeling amongst non armenian ppl in front of denying actions...
Plus, we should never forget that this "criminalisation" of denying has a present and future utility : why does a Government should be afraid of genociding a ppl if he can deny it freely ? As a crime genocide IS never to be confessed ! So, even with proofs, if it's possible to genocide and deny without problem, why stop genociding ?
For the Armenian genocide, there's still much work to do, as long as medias will go on oppose the 2 versions of this fact.
But, just to motivate all of us for keep on the fight : since 2 weeks and for a change, the words of Chirac Hayasdanoum about genocide, this project of law, Armenian Genocide and Turkey's anger are equally often mentionned in France's medias. So that the Genocide is becoming more and more obvious for the World, as well as the unbearable attitude of Turkey more and more isolated.
Just wanted to add :
Shafak and Dink have the opinion of the inside-Turkey ones that try to change things in another way : they're oppressed for their sayings but still try to deliver the message. It's very noble, and understandable.
But here in France, i don't think we'd had to take such a law if Turks didn't came mintchev hos for threatening french-armenians that only want to commemorate their deaths, and were followed by french authorities in this. The denying caused "troubles to public order", and it's nice that it won't be so easily tolerated.
Sad law for freedom of speech indeed, but remember that the same already exists in France since more than 20 years about Shoah's denying. Journalists here, even if supposed to be neutral, are rather agree with the fact that this law was useful despite of the freedom's hurt : it avoided us to see really embarrassing theories of some crazy minded people (embarassing for the one who listen).
With such a law for Armenian genocide we can hope to see the same disgusted feeling amongst non armenian ppl in front of denying actions...
Plus, we should never forget that this "criminalisation" of denying has a present and future utility : why does a Government should be afraid of genociding a ppl if he can deny it freely ? As a crime genocide IS never to be confessed ! So, even with proofs, if it's possible to genocide and deny without problem, why stop genociding ?
For the Armenian genocide, there's still much work to do, as long as medias will go on oppose the 2 versions of this fact.
But, just to motivate all of us for keep on the fight : since 2 weeks and for a change, the words of Chirac Hayasdanoum about genocide, this project of law, Armenian Genocide and Turkey's anger are equally often mentionned in France's medias. So that the Genocide is becoming more and more obvious for the World, as well as the unbearable attitude of Turkey more and more isolated.
posted by Jilda at 1:31 PM
3 Comments:
I liked the way you put it Jilda "...it avoided us to see really embarrassing theories of some crazy minded people...". Certainly sad for free speech, but it would protect the Genocide from being debated like it is a matter of opinion and argue for their own reasons, especially when they are ill informed or are in a position of power with an agenda.
And I just have to say... what is with those old Turkish men throwing eggs in every clip you see you on CNN. lol It's sooo goofy.
I trust the senate will assent to the bill. It may be another chip at freedoms of speech and open inquiry. These so called freedoms don't exist ,in any case, when relating to the jewish persecution of the second WW. There is an obvious reason as to why the French , suddenly adopted the present posture, I don't exactly know why . I doubt if they have done it for the 'love' of Armenia. There could be some other ulterior motive; but the law is welcome,aside for its moral righteousness and overdue justice, in light of the large numbers of Turks battening the soil of France which its socially disruptive and their group behaviour an incitement to disorder and sedition. If the senate rejects the vote, it will then be a cause to reflect on the justification and legitimacy of the other law which prohibits questioning the jewish experience. In that case a can of worms will be prised open.
Another armenian memorial profanated in Chaville (near Paris):
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/14102006/5/hauts-de-seine-vol-d-un-memorial-dedie-aux-victimes.html
A photo of what it was before :
http://www.acam-france.org/contacts/lieux/92-chaville-monument.htm
Now, the sculpture in the center of the place disappeared, it has been stolen this week end, 2 days after the vote of the text last thursday...
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